Well we got the story on the gold Lodge cards, and it took us weeks to do so. There was a rumor that a box got out. WRONG. About a year ago, we asked for the cards if and when they got rid of them. I wanted them for the PACK club. We spoke to the highest manager in the casino. He told us he'd let us know. Well, after weeks of running up to meet with him, and never finding him available to speak with us, we DID catch him this last trip. He said he asked the owner if they could donate the cards to our club, and was told "NO"! So he said the cards are gone, and they went into the TRASH!!! Now that makes sense. Throw them into the dumpster instead of giving them to 187 PACK members who'd add them to their collections. It wasn't a good trip to the casinos this week. Pat