Robert---I think I'll pass on your offer. Let me get all this kidney crap behind me and them all you guys can eat my dust!!!! I love those casino runs, and it is hell listening to all of you tell me you are going to MS. We had planned a ND run on this last holiday, but Daryl spent his vacation days in the hospital with me. What a good guy. Well, there is always next year. Bob G. I expect a full report for PACK when you return. Find some good ones. I am sorry to say I don't have either Indian card you asked about. Let me do some looking around. We have a meeting in Cripple Creek the 3rd Sunday of this month. Maybe I can find one. Be careful. Pat