Brian is catching flack for getting this card! I sent a mint Empress Joliet 1st issue white card(from the first week casino opened) to one of the pack members and one of the CCGTCC elite. The trade was supposed to be for an obsolete SPLASH casino card(which I just recently found out is present in LARGE numbers). This individual sent the cards in a standard white mailing envelope which arrived split open and EMPTY. When I informed him of the situation he said he would send me cards to replace the lost obsolete. These cards turned out to be current cards. I tried to get my Empress card back to no avail. When I told him to stick the cards he wanted to substitute up his a$$(by private email), this individual proceeded to write me up to the then claims director of the CCGTCC! I learned a lesson that day. All is fair in war and slot card trading/buying. If you can't play the game you get beat!!!!Brian evidently did something right, he got the card. He is NOT the only person who does what he needs to to get what he wants, nothing wrong with that as I see it!