I agree Jim, maybe we should start a class for packing and shipping cards. I'm also tired of people who don't give a "rat's a$$" on how they pack something. I also charge $2.00 for shipping on the first card on "feebay" but, mine are always well packed and I've never had a card "MIA" knock on wood. If anyone is looking for free cardboard they need look no farther than the USPO next day or flat rate envelopes, UPS 2nd day or next day envelopes and most of the other shipping companies out there. These envelopes are all free of charge and you can get enough cardboard from each envelope to ship at least 3 legal size envelopes in the mail. All it takes is a pair of sizzors or paper cutter, a little time and some "tlc."