The folks that bothered Pat are now out of office, I think...am I right Pat? I remember how upset Pat was at the time.... Also, I too said NO to a Chapter when I was told WE HAD TO JOIN.....that was a few years back...but Nate asked Pat and I to consider a Chapter at the Convention......We told him our of past experiences and that we wouldn't be pushed around...I can understand Pat's concern but I think the advantages outweigh the negatives in this case...I also want to repeat that PACK and MSOCK will not be changed, altered, affected, effected, or hurt in any way....we are not changing anything, we are supplementing what we already have...I can see yearly dues at $5 or $10...COMEON, lay it on, MORE INPUT....Don, Ron, Bob, Pat and Dave made interesting comments, now it's your turn..