Not to mention that casinos are putting in machines with rounded tops on them - making it even harder to find the cards. And so many of the machines are black which also makes it hard to spot dark colored cards on them. And as short as I am, I have to have Ed along to see and get the cards off the tops of the machines. I agree, the casinos are trying to hinder our card harvesting efforts. Casinos don't seem to be that busy which means the cleaning people circulate around more and snatch the cards before we get them. We'll just have to keep trying.