Very interesting question Jerry and very good info from Dave. I did notice in Laughlin in August that some of the penny and nickle machines were also "up there" - some about $8 for 1 point. I haven't seen that extreme here in Colorado yet. I see $3 or $5 on some - will pay more attention next time. Quarters for the most part are still 1 point for $1 played. We haven't cashed in points in so long and I haven't paid much attention to their sign up flyers just what you get for your points earned. That'll give me something to discuss with the slot card desk people on our next trip.