Pat....Sounds good to me...we all love PACK and respect your wishes....we will proceed with plans for the Chapter (now the Club) and can discuss plans later this month in Las Vegas....To those that don't understand the advasntages of our CLUB, I think the biggest reason is the yearly swap meet for card and key collectors during Convention time.....Having a CLUB gives us structure and a line of communications among fellow collectors. I will ask David Johnston to provide all the members an address list of all the members so we can promote more trading among ourselves....still looking for more input and ideas...thanks